The Biden administration has told key lawmakers it is sending a new package of more than $1 billion in arms and ammunition to Israel, three congressional aides said Tuesday.

It’s the first arms shipment to Israel to be announced by the administration since it put another arms transfer — consisting of 3,500 bombs — on hold this month. The administration has said it paused that earlier transfer to keep Israel from using the bombs in its growing offensive in the crowded southern Gaza city of Rafah.

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    So why didn’t we do anything when Israel is doing even worse?

    Literally, right now they’re doing worse to a lot more people…

    And before 10/7, they were still doing worse to even more people…

    So why focus on that one day and ignore literally everything else?

    Like, you realize the people from Hamas on 10/7 are the families of Israels prior victims?

    If Israel is justified in what they’re doing because of 10/7, why wasn’t 10/7 justified?

    If none of it is acceptable, why are you only focusing on the one day Israel’s were the victim over every other day they were the attackers?

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      Sure, so you want to treat this conflict like it didn’t start on 10/7. Ok.

      Do you believe that the 20 year campaign of suicide bombing perpetrated by Palestinian militants was a valid form of protest? Did you grow up seeing the charred skeletons of buses on TV? Did you know that this terror campaign was so vicious that Israel had to forcibly relocate Jews that had lived in Gaza their entire lives, who’s families had lived in Gaza for generations? Would you define this as ethnic cleansing by Palestinians?

      Do you believe that the Yom Kippur war surprise attack was a valid form of protest? Did you know that the Arab countries position was to refuse any peace deal with Israel, even when they were offered the return of the Sinai and the Golan?

      If you think that Israel has a responsibility to ensure aid enters Gaza, then surely you believe that closing the Suez to Israeli shipping was a casus belli for the 6 day war?

      Do you believe the attempted genocide of Jews by their Arab neighbors in 1948 was a valid form of protest? Do you think that Arabs have the right to enforce a racially pure population? Have you thought about why 20 percent of Israelis are Arab? Is it possible that these were honest folks who did not attempt to commit a genocide against Jews?

      Have you stopped to think why Jews, who have existed in the area for thousands of years, no longer have extant populations in Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Yemen, or Iraq? Have you considered the possibility that they were ethnically cleansed by their Arab neighbors? Have you heard of the Farhud? Do you have any idea what you’re talking about?

      Edit: the instant downvote without any rebuttal demonstrates how inconvenient the truth is pro-Hamas supporters.

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        Sure, so you want to treat this conflict like it didn’t start on 10/7. Ok.

        I don’t know why a logical peraon wouldn’t…

        Or why I should continue conversations with people who do

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        Only the desperate do suicide attacks. It’s sad that they even have to resort to such things. They weren’t militants. I heard some of them were young adults who had nothing else to live for.

        They couldn’t attack anyone if their land wasn’t stolen.

        Jews still exist in Iraq. Israel pretended to be Arab terrorists and tried to trick them into becoming Israelis. It didn’t work. Israelis allies made Yemen HELL for everyone. That’s when Israel capitalized and took in Yemeni Jews. Israel absorbed the Levantine Jews.

        France helped with the Suez Canal thing. They knew they will betray Egypt. Israel’s creation was a giant backstapping. At every step.

        I know you drunk the koolaid as soon as you mentioned Arabs have cleansed the area of Jews. The real truth is the Arab culture absorbed everyone in the region. The Philistines, Judahites, Isrealites, Arameans, Lihyanites, etc. You clearly have been forced fed lies and propaganda your whole life.

        Also, stop crying about down votes when talking about a sensitive issue. Are you really going to break down every time the rain of lies that makes up your upbringing gets challenged?

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          Wow not even trying to hide the Nazi ideology anymore with the “stab in the back” rhetoric? Real mask off moment.

          In 1947 there were 156,000 Jews living in Iraq. Today there are three. Just like #Pallywood, you lie through your teeth.

          You spout this nonsense about false flag attacks yet provide no proof. This is the exact same nonsense as Kristallnacht. Funny enough, the Arab world embraced Nazism whole cloth. “Religion of peace”.

          You say that the land in Israel was stolen. You also say that Yemeni Jews were forced to relocate to Israel. How are both possible? The amount of mental gymnastics to try to rationalize the pro Hamas position is insanity.

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            Wow, I did not reliaze there was an Israeli operation to also move all of the Iraqi Jews to Israel. So, Israeli has now relocated all Arab Jews which lasted till… the formation of Israel. Where is this Arab cleansing? The Israelis cleansed the Arab lands of its Jews.

            You say that the land in Israel was stolen. You also say that Yemeni Jews were forced to relocate to Israel. How are both possible?

            What is the conflict here?

            Did you know Germany had to make an official statement to correct Isreal. Israel tried to blame the Holocaust on the “Sharif of Jerusalem.” Germany said (about a month ago), “No, that was us.”

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              Massive victim blaming. “We didn’t ethnically cleanse them, we just slaughtered them by the thousands, banned their religion and them owning property. They left on their own!”

              I’m not surprised someone defending Hamas is ready to blame the victim. That whole side of the world has a pretty bad track record on women’s rights.

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                I’m not defending Hamas. I’m noting that Arab Jews existed until Israel had operations to absorb them.

                “We didn’t ethnically cleanse them, we just slaughtered them by the thousands, banned their religion and them owning property. They left on their own!”

                Is this an IDF quote from Gaza? Is this about the auctioned land?