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Cake day: September 29th, 2023

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  • That was an example, but it doesn’t necessarily need to be taking the children away. “Re-education” with the intent to remove someone’s ethnical/cultural background is cultural genocide. The idea of “kill the Indian and save the man”, in this case would be like “kill the Uighur and save the person”. But I don’t know enough about the specifics in China and I’m not arguing that what they’re doing is specifically cultural genocide, I’m just saying that cultural genocide is real and does occur.

    And I very strongly disagree that the civil war was cultural genocide. Just because the majority of the people who were on the losing side were white doesn’t mean they were targeted indiscriminately JUST for being white (that’s the key difference here). They were not targeted because of the way they looked or the language they spoke or where they were born. Racism and oppression are not cultural or human rights.

    Equating white American culture to the racism that specifically Confederate and Neo-N*zis were and continue to advocate for is very much “I’m German so the swastika is my heritage” vibes.


  • Yeah but cultural genocide (ethnocide) doesn’t refer to just kill off parts of a culture. It’s a systemic approach, usually backed by law, to destroy the entire ethnicity and cultural norms.

    Take for example what the Canadian government calls the cultural genocide of indigenous people in Canada. Their intention was not to kill the parts of indigenous culture that they didn’t like, but it was forced assimilation through legal action and through removing children from their culture. It was remove/ban/destroy all indigenous culture - very “kill the Indian and save the man”. That is cultural genocide.

    In your example, the “destruction” of racism in American culture was not led by a government and not led against any ethnic group directly. Nobody was taking Confederate kids away from their family to teach them the “right” way.

    Yes cultures change and adapt, but ethnocide is the very intentional move to do everything possible to destroy that culture. Will it adapt? Sure, yes, indigenous cultures have been extremely resilient and survived in Canada. but to say that it wasn’t cultural genocide is to ignore the fact that children were literally ripped from their families in order to stop them from practicing their culture, or that cultural meetings and even just any type of meeting within their own groups was outlawed.

    Indian children should be withdrawn as much as possible from the parental influence, and the only way to do that would be to put them in central training industrial schools where they will acquire the habits and modes of thought of white men.

    That’s a quote from our first prime minister. That is what I mean when I say cultural genocide.

    Cultural genocide is intentional. And much of the time, as I mentioned before, it is a facet of violent genocide because it leads to deaths and multigenerational trauma. Even if the government wasn’t going in and killing people en masse and intentionally - which is how genocide is technically defined - there’s no way that this is not a type of genocide.


  • Thank you for the breakdown. I’m very genuinely curious about this cultural bed sharing thing but the only thing I’m finding is that it’s common amongst family, not with guests. (I’m not questioning you, I’m just actually curious about this)

    Another question - do you mean to say that you don’t think cultural genocide is a thing (whether in this situation or not)? Cause it’s definitely a facet of regular genocide, even genocide-lite.




  • I mean, I don’t think it’s that he’s not feeling things, my mom definitely heard him crying at night and stuff. He just does his best to hide it from us.

    I know what you mean though about depression shutting you down, and I don’t doubt there’s plenty of trauma in his past so it’s probably just a bit of everything.

    I hope you’re well <3


  • When I was young, my dad would do cheesy magic tricks and let me walk on his feet. He’d let me and my sister dress him up and put clips in his hair. Growing up he helped with my homework and cultured my love for learning and writing. This all fostered really wonderful memories.

    As an adult, the one thing that I would change about my relationship with him is that I’d wish he could better express his emotions. He’s very emotionally shut-in and we recently went through the deaths of his brother and his mom and that man has cried once. I know he feels sad but he just acts like everything’s okay and that’s hard for me to watch and hard for me to know how to be there for him. My mom, on the other hand, is very emotionally open and I always know that she needs me to talk or to just be there with her. I guess more so than expressing his emotions, I just wish he’d tell me what he needs, but we come from a culture of machismo where he learned he’s not supposed to need things, especially from women.

    Anyways, just be there for your baby girl. Enjoy your time together, and she’ll have plenty of great memories with her dad.